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Jan 20 17 11:21 AM
Mar 10 17 11:40 AM
CHANDLER, the Legendary "Duke of Earl" , has a street named after him
in his Hometown , Chicago , honored by Marshall Thompson of The
Chi-Lites and other celebrities !!! With some 40 Pop and R&B Chart
Hits,Singer, Songwriter, Producer , Music Publisher, and Record Company
Executive... and singer and writer of one of the most ICONIC songs of
ALL-TIME, not to mention his incredible worldwide influence, WHY ISN'T
GENE CHANDLER in The ROCK & ROLL OF FAME ??
Bill G wrote:They told me to stick with them.Good. That means that Gene has a CHANCE.But, there's just one PROBLEM.While I may have have a little more time to "stick", GENE himself DOESN'T.He is 79 years old.He has qualified since 1986. The VERY FIRST YEAR of inductions.
GENE HIMSELF can't wait a whole lot longer.I'd hate to see him become a POSTHUMOUS inductee.Like two of The BELMONTS.Like JR WALKER & THE ALL STARS.Like MARY WELLS.Like all but ONE of The SPINNERS. Like TWO of the original MARVELETTES.
Like ONE of THE COMMODORES,TWO of The WHISPERS ,almost ALL of The DRAMATICS,and The CHI-LITES (Marshall is the ONLY ONE left), one of THE POINTER SISTERS, like NICK ASHFORD,NORMAN WHITFIELD, JOHNNY MAESTRO, BROOK BENTON, and numerous other acts that have left us....without even being NOMINATED. While more and more RAP and HIP-HOP Artists get INDUCTED each YEAR......and Classic R&B Artists are being IGNORED.******WHY?*****At WHAT POINT did R&B suddenly become IRRELEVANT ??
It's not that R+B became "IRRELEVANT" ,it's that rock and roll is the most diverse kind of music there is, that's why the R+RHoF gets way more ink (and strong feelings )every single year than all the other music HoFs combined, Gene Chandler means a lot to you (and I respect that),the (never nominated) Johnny Burnette Trio and (never nominated)John Coltrane mean a lot to me, every music means something to somebody.When all the original people at this forum met 17 or so odd years ago, Miles Davis was my #1 choice not yet inducted, for Cliff it was The Ventures ,for Mycroft it was The Moody Blues and Rush, for Scott it was Yes, for Rick it was ELO and Genesis, for Charles it was prog music in general ,17 years (more or less) later all but the Moody Blues are in ,and they'll probably be in soon.You may hate to hear this,but one thing going against Gene Chandler is he was never a watershed artist like James Brown or Aretha Franklin are, and (regardless if you like it or not) ,rap is indeed part of R+B, also you (just like Billboard in the 60s)pretty much ignore R+B from the South (such as Peggy Scott and Jo Jo Benson) and favor of R+B from the North(such as Gene Chandler) and I'm saying this as one who is also a Buckeye ,but a Buckeye from the Southern part of the state ,and being that gave me exposure to R+B (and other music for that matter) from both the North and the South, that in turn gave me the "big tent" ideal that myself and Charles pretty much espouse.''Duke Of Earl"(one of the first songs I ever remember hearing) and "Groovy Situation" (a hit when I was in my early teens) mean a lot to me,I'd like to see him in the HoF, on the other hand there are a couple of hundred artists whose music means even more to me I'd like to see in before Gene Chandler , a lot of them are artists who preceded him by many, many years.The problem with the HoF is it's limits, it does need to be expanded , but on the other hand ,we don't just want to admit anyone in the HoF because they simply made a record that someone liked , that way we'd get Pat Boone in it,on the other hand KISS are in it ,so IMO you might as well put Pat Boone or anybody else in it. But,I will be intellectually honest enough admit that my feelings about KISS are generationally based too, and that people way younger than me see it differently.
Rick is unhappy some ELO members won't be inducted,I was unhappy because Skip Spence and Signe Toly Anderson weren't inducted with Jefferson Airplane, no two persons (even inside the HoF itself) are ever going to be 100% happy with the HoF.
Back when this original forum happened, one person(whose name I won't give) always griped that classic R+B was being elected every year and prog was not, and technically he was right, lots of classic R+B is in ,and it isn't racism why more isn't elected today ,or rap wouldn't be in.
The problem is the way the HoF is being done is too limited, a Veterans Committee would be part of reducing that limitation ,also Gene Chandler could be inducted in Musical Excellence for his work as a songwriter and producer, they backdoored Leon Russell and Ringo Starr that way.
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