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Charles Crossley Jr

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Dec 29 07 8:32 AM

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Now, that's an accomplishment. Mind you, Dave Davies had a stroke, and bassist Pete Quaife, who bailed in 1969, has kidney problems. But they can still reunite for a tour and an album, which is exactly what is planned for 2008.

The article below is from Relix.

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The Kinks are the next band to jump on the reunion bandwagon. According to an interview with frontman Ray Davies, published in London's The Mirror, the seminal garage-rock band's original lineup will publicly perform together for the first time since 1969. Original bassist Pete Quaife split with Ray and Dave Davies and drummer Mick Avory in 1969, shortly before the group recorded its influential single, "Lola." From then until 1996, the Davies toured as the Kinks with a rotating lineup of musicians. The group's original lineup also performed a few songs at their 1990 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction.

A few years ago the group's reunion hopes seemed slim: Ray Davies is currently touring as a successful solo artist, his brother had a stroke in 2004 and Quaife has suffered from kidney problems. According to his recent interview, Davies hopes to both tour and record with the original Kinks in 2008. The group is one of the few iconic bands from the 1960s with all its original members still alive

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Dec 29 07 12:08 PM

I want tickets!

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Dec 29 07 12:20 PM

When I was living in San Francsico back in 1970 I was at the then Tower Records store on Larkin near the Wharf when I casually heard this band playing on a stage in front of the store. No one paid them any mind. It wasn'y until I stopped on the way out to hear them that I realized it was THE KINKS! This was back in their God Save The Kinks era and the waning days of Frisco Psychedelia so they were in such disrepute they couldn't even draw a crowd of few people for a free show. Sad. Reminds my of when I saw the Everley Brothers booed off stage in 1967 at the Cow Palace. Oh, how pretentious the Frisco faux hippie were back then.

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Dec 29 07 11:40 PM

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Yeah, the Everlys were booed in the middle of November at the Cow Palace... it was one of the worst conceived shows put on stage, ever. It was free to get in; all you had to do was buy an MGM album at a certain group of department stores (not normal record stores) to get tix.

Two sets that night... the first was The Sunshine Company, The Animals, and The Who. The Sunshine Company played two or three songs, and were off the stage within 15 minutes. The Animals were the second group, only Eric Burdon was left, joined by Georgie Fame, violinist Richard Greene & others that no one who hadn't attended Monterey had ever heard. The Who played Substitute, Summertime Blues, Tattoo, I Can See For Miles, A Quick One While He's Away, and My Generation. They had to shut the show down for an intermission because of the debris the Who left on stage.

The Sopwith Camel, like the Sunshine Company, only played two or three songs. They were followed by the Everly Brothers, who were in the middle of their "we ain't rock, we're country" phase (before Warners brought in Ron Elliott & others to update them) and they were completely out of place during that show, and they performed rather poorly (I suspected one was very stoned). The Association closed the night, playing for about 30 minutes before playing their then-current new hit "Windy" -- and playing it, and playing it, and playing it, repeating the last chorus over and over and over as the audience was being ushered out of the Cow Palace...

Yeah, we booed them. They were misplaced and not good.

I'm sorry if you heard them differently.

Cliff

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Dec 30 07 4:19 AM

Cliff, the store was White Front. My seats were right BEHIND the stage so I got to see all the detentations and smoke bombs being set off during the who. I'm not sure if the crowd were booing Don and Phil as much as their tuxedos, LOL!

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Dec 30 07 6:03 PM

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White Front! Yes. The only department/discount store with British & Italian import LPs! That's where I could find the original songs on the first Pink Floyd and Cream albums!

I knew I had a reason to shop there.

Cliff

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Dec 31 07 4:47 AM

Underground Democrat wrote:
I want tickets!

wow, me 2

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Dec 31 07 4:59 AM

The Association weren't part of the show the night I saw this concert. I did see them a few months earlier at the Jacksonville Coliseum as part of the Caravan of Stars type tour. Talk about ill concieved, they were on the same bill as The Seeds (Sky Saxon). Oddly, when I lived in Jax, they had a knack of booking strange combinations. I went to see Hendrix open for the Monkees there just before he hit big. Fortunately he opened so I left before the pre-fab 4 came on as he was the only reason I went. The teenyboppers at least didn't boo Jimi. But they were totally indifferent and oblivious to the Experience.

Charles Crossley Jr

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Dec 31 07 12:21 PM

shirtforbrains wrote:
The teenyboppers at least didn't boo Jimi. But they were totally indifferent and oblivious to the Experience.

I bet they're all talking differently about him now. "Yeah, I saw Hendrix! Live! He played just before the Monkees. Can you believe that? Man, he blew them off the stage. He was the reason I was there. I didn't care for no Monkees. . . ."

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Dec 31 07 12:43 PM

LOL Charles, you may be right. It's like the 9 million people I've met that were at Woodstock. I wasn't, but saw the movie, LOL!

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Dec 31 07 12:51 PM

shirtforbrains wrote:
LOL Charles, you may be right. It's like the 9 million people I've met that were at Woodstock. I wasn't, but saw the movie, LOL!

I couldn't make it, I was in summer school cause I flunked English

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Dec 31 07 12:58 PM

I was out of the country.

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Dec 31 07 6:07 PM

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Charles Crossley Jr wrote:

shirtforbrains wrote:
The teenyboppers at least didn't boo Jimi. But they were totally indifferent and oblivious to the Experience.

I bet they're all talking differently about him now. "Yeah, I saw Hendrix! Live! He played just before the Monkees. Can you believe that? Man, he blew them off the stage. He was the reason I was there. I didn't care for no Monkees. . . ."

Yeah, I saw the same lineup at San Francisco Civic... I took my gf to the DC5, the Animals, and Sandy Bull, she got me to take her to the Monkees & the Beatles. We both wanted to see the Stones, and that turned out to be... uh... humiliating? an honor? weird? magnificent?

Cliff

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Jan 2 08 8:50 AM

I remember the controversy the DC5 created after the concert they did were they lip-synched the whole show. In Sacto in '66 (is that the right year??)

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Jan 2 08 3:52 PM

Cliff Adams wrote:
Yeah, the Everlys were booed in the middle of November at the Cow Palace... it was one of the worst conceived shows put on stage, ever. It was free to get in; all you had to do was buy an MGM album at a certain group of department stores (not normal record stores) to get tix.

Two sets that night... the first was The Sunshine Company, The Animals, and The Who. The Sunshine Company played two or three songs, and were off the stage within 15 minutes. The Animals were the second group, only Eric Burdon was left, joined by Georgie Fame, violinist Richard Greene & others that no one who hadn't attended Monterey had ever heard. The Who played Substitute, Summertime Blues, Tattoo, I Can See For Miles, A Quick One While He's Away, and My Generation. They had to shut the show down for an intermission because of the debris the Who left on stage.

The Sopwith Camel, like the Sunshine Company, only played two or three songs. They were followed by the Everly Brothers, who were in the middle of their "we ain't rock, we're country" phase (before Warners brought in Ron Elliott & others to update them) and they were completely out of place during that show, and they performed rather poorly (I suspected one was very stoned). The Association closed the night, playing for about 30 minutes before playing their then-current new hit "Windy" -- and playing it, and playing it, and playing it, repeating the last chorus over and over and over as the audience was being ushered out of the Cow Palace...

Yeah, we booed them. They were misplaced and not good.

I'm sorry if you heard them differently.

The way I've heard it is that Warners wanted the Everlys to go for a country career as Jerry Lee Lewis and Conway Twitty had successfully done and they said "no",that they would be willing to exprement in country-rock but that they started out as a strictly country act and they felt that to do that again would be going backwards.

Even in regards to early rockers who hit the country charts in 60s and 70 there were mitigating circumstances.

In the case of Conway Twitty ,country music was his first love,his pop/rock career had dried up and it was logical for him to persue a country career [though he wouldn't have commercial success for several years].

In the cases of Jerry Lee Lewis and Brenda Lee,rock and roll was still Jerry Lee's top musical love and pop-rock was still Brenda Lee's,but pop radio wasn't playing records by either of them anymore,a large part of their original audiences had moved on to country and they both had country roots,so it was either move to a country career or become oldies acts.

In the case of Elvis Presley ,he saw himself as a pop act[and he still was a major success on the pop charts] and he couldn't understand how [or why ] he was getting country airplay and country sales.

The reason was that a lot of his original fans had moved on to country music and were going to take him along with them regardless if he liked it or not.

Charles Crossley Jr

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Jan 2 08 7:04 PM

Why did they record "Bowling Green"?

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Jan 3 08 11:50 AM

Charles Crossley Jr wrote:
Why did they record "Bowling Green"?

That was a fairly big pop hit in my neck of the woods,and it should have been a big hit nationwide.

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Jan 3 08 12:42 PM

In fact,I think even in Billboard "Bowling Green" hit pop,not country.

It is ironic though that at the time The Byrds and Bob Dylan were doing music that was more country than a lot of what country radio was playing ,yet they couldn't get any country airplay at all.

Charles Crossley Jr

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Feb 26 08 8:11 AM

I sure hope Dave gets on board with this. But I love his quip that Ray has been playing "karaoke Kinks" for years, as well as Ray's reaction that Dave's bile is a "good sign" he's recovering.

From Billboard.

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Davies Still Hopeful For Kinks Reunion

February 22, 2008, 10:30 AM ET

Gary Graff, Detroit

A few weeks back, a supposed reunion by the Kinks was trumpeted by several outlets. But frontman Ray Davies tells Billboard.com not to get its hopes up just yet.

Davies acknowledges he's had reunion discussions with the members of the Kinks' original lineup -- his brother, guitarist Dave Davies, bassist Pete Quaife and drummer Mick Avory. But "it depends on if Dave and I get together," he says, acknowledging that the younger Davies is still recovering from a stroke he suffered in 2004. "He's gradually getting his strength back, but he's playing again, so that's a good sign."

New material would also have to be part of the equation. "I can't get a band together just to play the old hits," Davies says. "They'd have to be able to do, like, 10% new material. I think that will be the determining factor in the long run."

The problem: Dave Davies seems to want no part of a reunion, having posted on his Web site that "it would be like a poor remake of 'Night of the Livin (sic) Dead' " and declaring that Ray has been doing "Karaoke Kinks shows since 1996," when the band last worked together. Ray's response: "He's getting well enough to shout at me. That's a good sign."

Oddly enough, a second full-length solo album hasn't made Davies any more comfortable with the idea of being on his own. "I still have a problem with being a solo artist. I don't know why," says the artist, who released "Working Man's Cafe" earlier this week via New West/Ammal.

Davies plans to tour to promote "Working Man's Cafe," though only two mid-March shows in Australia are announced so far. He says the new album came "a lot quicker" than 2006's "Other People's Lives," and is also "unwittingly" a more personal album than its predecessor.

"It's about getting back in touch with yourself as a person," Davies explains. "It is more about me, 'cause 'Other People's Lives' tends to be, 'Oh, this is about other people;' It really is me, but I'm trying to sing about other people. But ('Working Man's Cafe') is more personal than I thought it was. It's mentality rather than a geographical or tangible thing. It's a philosophy, really."

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Feb 29 08 2:20 PM

It's interesting that Ray doesn't want to perform under any name but The Kinks because the same is true for his Ex Chrissie Hynde not wanting to perform under any name but The Pretenders.

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